Couples Massage, Erotic, Weekends, New England & North Carolina,
List of Questions & Answers
For more information about the following questions and answers e-mail
mail@couples-for-massage.com
Introduction
We have received many questions from couples over the 10 years of sponsoring
massage weekends. The following is our (long,..sorry) Q & A response to those
questions. Most questions are from couples who have never had a massage,
sensual or erotic experience with another couple. Nonetheless, we thought
it may be helpful to publish our answers for all couples, regardless of
their experience. Please write back with additional questions.
Couples interested in attending any event and requesting to be placed on our
mailing list should send us bios that describe yourselves. Please also send
a note agreeing to our "statement of confidentiality" (see details of how to
attend our events at Event
Dates & How To Attend). A collection of bios is mailed to couples on
the mail list prior to an event. DIRECTIONS, HOUSING AND FOOD ARRANGEMENTS
WILL BE SEND ONLY TO REGISTERED COUPLES, 7 DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT. Visit our
web page for full information about our events couples-for-massage.com.
All couples attending the massage events must sign our confidentiality
statement. A copy of the statement is located at Confidentiality Statement
We have added a new link to our site for those interested in Sex in Film
http://sexinfilm.blogspot.com/
Our web page http://couples-for-massage.com
also links to the introductory paragraphs of couples who have recently
attended one of our events. This will give you a sense of the type of couples
who attend our weekends. You will also be able to link to their comments
after attending.
Comments From Attenders. We also have a page of tips for "first time"
couples "First
Time Tips"
List of Questions
The following are a list of questions on this Q & A.
1. How does a couple, never into this, get started at your weekends?
2. Would it be better if we did some swinging with just one couple to
break the ice, before a weekend like yours?
3. How long has your group been in existence?
4. Did you ever think of having a pre-meeting?
5. Where is your web page?
6. How many couples are necessary for a massage party to be a success?
7. What does the massage involve?
8. If we are the only couple to say "no thank you", will we feel odd?
9. What does hard and soft swinging mean ?
10. Can the paired couples choose each other or do you do that?
11. When couples are paired off to massage, will we be paired with our
own mate or are we paired off with new partners each time?
12. What is the chances that the other couples will be attractive?
13. Do you think that bisexual couples will be welcomed? Do you welcome
single females? Can single men attend?
14. We have had the desire to have sex, with my wife having two or more men,
and I with two or more women. Is this possible?
15. What are your thoughts on swinging and AIDS ?
16. How do we indicate our interest in attending your events?
17. We were interested in knowing what sort of age group could be expected
during these events?
18. What are the age groups of the other couples you expect?
19. I am 18 and boyfriend is 31. We live together and have never
experienced the life style but want to badly. Can we attend the massage party?
20. Where is the place it will be held? What do we wear during the
dress-up dinner?
21. For the weekend events can you describe the sleeping accommodations?
22. Does the fee include lodging for the weekend or is lodging extra?
23. I would like to talk my wife into experimenting with other couples.
Do you think that a massage party like this would be good for a first time
experience?
24. Why is a confidentiality statement needed?
25. What if someone in the group really turns you off? Is there a proper
etiquette to let them know without ruining the mood for anyone? Is this a
"no pressure atmosphere? What if after trying this we really do not enjoy it?
26. Does everyone exchange pictures and email addresses before the
weekend so you can get a feel for the other attendees ahead of time?
27. It seems many of the women are bi. I admire a good-looking woman
(wishing I looked like her), but my sexual attraction is only to men.
Is that going to be a problem?
28. What about other diseases besides HIV? I have heard there is great
risk from Genital Herpes.
29. Do you have any tips for first time couples?
30. What are our favorite massage and lifestyle web sites?
31. My husband and I have had an active and enjoyable sex life for 20
years. About two years ago I began to loose interest in sex. It is now at a
point that I nearly have no sex drive and would just as well go without it.
The major problem is my husband. I love him and want to make him happy.
We have talked about swinging. Would attending the massage weekends help
with my sex drive or could it be a healthy outlet for my husband?
32. What is the rules or "etiquette" in the group room at your massage
weekends?
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ANSWERS
1. >How does a couple, never into this, get started at your weekend?
A. We welcome couples who are interested in sensual and erotic massage.
We welcome couples who want more spice and excitement in their sexual lives.
Our weekends are for couples who want to add excitement to their sexual lives
and to do it with other couples. We welcome couples somewhat new to sharing
sensual touch with others or couples with much lifestyle experience. All you
have to do is send us your bio plus agreement to confidentiality and we will
add you to the list, pending available space. In our events we will provide
some structure, some sensual touching & wellness instruction and some
directions. Our group massage takes about three hours of the weekend. We have
found that it is fun to experiment with intimacy through massage,
understanding that massage will provide limits and some structure.
Though
much of the weekend is centered around sensual and erotic touch with others,
the goal of the weekend is to enhance intimacy with your significant partner.
There will also be plenty of unstructured "party" time, where you can do what
you want. However, in the structured or unstructured part of the event,
choice and freedom are very important. We want to set an environment where
couples can experience pleasure yet always be able to say "no thank you."
We have found it wonderful to be with others for a full weekend. This
provides the opportunity to really get to know others as friends.
We STRONGLY encourage all couples (new or old) to read our web page
"First Time Tips""Tips for Success."
Note: throughout this Q & A we refer to couples because 95% of people who
attend our weekends come as couples. However, we also allow single women to
attend the weekends. Single men are not allowed.
2. >Pardon if we appear unknowing, (we are) this is all new and we want
to understand all before starting out on this adventure. Would it be better
if we did some swinging with just another couple in their home or ours to
break the ice before a weekend like you suggest?
A. Our events offers a massage experience as a tool to improve
intimacy and sexual enjoyment in your relationship. We frequently describe
our weekends as couples' "health and wellness" events. Yet we also include
a group play room for couples to enjoy erotic play with other couples.
Some couples attend with plans only to have sensual "non-erotic" touch with
other couples. Other couples plan to have erotic touching with others,
sometimes as a first time experience. We usually encourage (but do not
require) "first time" couples seeking erotic touch with other couples to have
had some other couple experiences prior to attending the massage weekends.
This experience could simply be going out to dinner with another couple that
you meet from a web site. A prior experience could also be attending a
hotel party where you watch. The massage weekends tend to be more intense
erotic experiences due to the small number of couples and due to the events
lasting a full weekend.
Our events are different in the following ways; we do structure massage in
groups (usually 3 couples) and the events are for a full weekend. Our events
do not assume "erotic touching with others" but do assume comfort with being
touched by someone other than your partner and comfort with nudity. Couples
with no prior experience with touching or nudity are sometimes more
comfortable with a first event where they can simply watch or are more
comfortable meeting one couple alone. Some couples new to "all of this" are
more comfortable attending a house party without structure, where they can
choose to participate or not.
Finally, you may find that many of the other couples attending know each
other from previous events. Some may quickly begin caressing each other.
However, there will always be first time attenders just getting to know each
other. Try not to feel rushed because others are doing it and try not to
feel left out. As soon as old friends move past their "re-acquittance" time,
you will be included. Remember, you will have two days with the group.
The event DOES NOT provide massage therapy or instruction in massage therapy.
No fee is exchanged for giving or getting a massage. A main purpose of the
event is to learn sensual touching with your marriage or "significant other"
partner.
2.> (another answer to a similar question) We have never been involved in
anything like this. But we both share this fantasy, and may want to pursue it.
We are truly in love, have been married for many years. Do you believe your
organization is a good platform to pursue fantasies as such?
A.> Some couples attend our events seeking a "first time" erotic
experience with another couple. We usually encourage "first time" couples to
seek a first erotic experiences prior to attending the massage weekends.
We encourage this but do not require it. Many couples write us because
they (rightly think) that an erotic massage would be a wonderful first time
experience. Many couples have enjoyed their "first" experience at our events.
Many other couples have enjoyed a sensual, non-erotic, experience with
another couple at our events. A few couples have had a bad first experience.
The problem is that you may be surprised by your discomfort with sensual
or erotic touching from another couple or from group nudity. It may be
more safe to start with a 1:1 massage time with another couple.
The problem (or advantage) with our massage weekends is that you are
negotiating with other couples interests and sexual energy in the context
of a larger group. This is wonderful fun, but often makes new couples
feel uncomfortable because others are going faster, slower or in different
directions than your comfort level. You have greater "control" of events if
you have a 1:1 experience or simple a dinner out with an experienced couple.
This allows you to stop at any point. You are less able to control the
events in a group of couples (all with high sexual energy). Afterwards,
and assuming you enjoy this erotic 1:1 adventure, you will more likely
enjoy the group massage weekends.
These are just our ideas from watching many other new couples. What do you think?
Does this make sense or not?
3.> How long has your group been in existence?
A. Since 1997, sponsoring four or more events per year.
We are both health professionals who have enjoyed erotic massage and other
pleasures with couples for many years. We attended a weekend massage workshop
for couples in 1996..., it was at this event where the "seed" of this idea
was planted. We are often asked if we know of other massage groups. We do
not, however we recommend searching on the web for other groups.
4.> We read the "stuff" written, it is something I've thought about myself,
did you ever think of having a pre-meeting?
A. We have meet couples in pre-meetings upon their request.
Sometimes we have met 1:1 with a new couple to exchange an erotic massage
or erotic touching. We also respond to individual questions via e-mail and
talk to new couples over the phone as an event nears. In all of our
descriptions of the events we try and convey:
1. couple's relationships who attend our events should be healthy (i.e., not
is a crises or considering separation),
2. the events are for fun not therapy,
3. talk to each other about your boundaries before coming,
4. establish a secret signal for "private conference" if feeling uncomfortable,
5. the events will experiment with sensual pleasure ,
6. it is always ok to say "no thank you", however, it may be more enjoyable
to say "please try doing this instead..".
7. you are coming as guests to our private party. There is no fee. The only
money exchange is for housing.
8. the events are aimed at improving your sexual lives
5.> Where is this web page? couples-for-massage.com
6> We are wondering if you always have a full house? If not, how many
couples are necessary for the week end to be a success?
A. We aim for 4-20 couples in a massage event.
7> We are very open minded but are not interested in any type of swapping.
We are open to conversation, massage, game playing, nudity, same room
activities (very interested), and anything erotic... but on the agenda you
mention couples may pair and experiment,??? What do some of the more
erotic activities involve??? Again we have no problem with nudity & light
touching, but if it involves licking, sucking, or any hard core activities
between non partners we will say no.
A. The events invite couples to pair for massage and sensual play.
We provide a 30 minute sensual touching and wellness instruction. Couples
are then paired, usually three couples to a massage table. Each person
receives a massage from the group. The massage can be just sensual or
sensual and erotic. The person receiving the massage will choose. The events
are intended for couples who are interested in sensual play with other
couples. This can mean only light touching or more intense massage. The
limits are negotiated by couples. Part of the event will be evening parties
suitable for other erotic activities. Also, sometimes we play games.
Examples of games are "strawberries, cream & me" where we will fed each
other without hands. I don't know if these are "hard core" activities but
they could include licking. Some couples are active in the swinger
lifestyle.., and expect to swing at the party. Some, like yourselves,
enjoy the sensual environment but have clear limits that does not include
such erotic activities. The event structures sensual play with other
couples.., again with all the permission for everyone to set their own
limit. However, you would not want to come to an event like this if you
are only interested in watching. There is nothing wrong with that..., but
this event will structure massage with other couples. That activity
will include sensual touching with other couples. At the massage, most
people are nude. At most other times people are wearing something,
some are nude many are not. The massage weekends tend to be more intense
erotic experiences due to the small number of couples and due to the events
lasting a full weekend. The goal of the weekend is to enhance intimacy
with your significant partner.
8> This is our concern. If we are the only couple that "is saying no",
nobody will feel comfortable with us and we will not feel part of the group.
A. If you are "saying no" to erotic touching, you should not feel
uncomfortable. If you are "saying no" to someone fondling you, you should
not feel uncomfortable. However, you would only want to attend the weekend
if you ARE interested in sensual touching with another couple. If you are
"saying no" to sensual massage and interactions, you would feel uncomfortable.
Were thinking of ways to reassure you..., but maybe we shouldn't. We don't
know what your experiences have been. If you have never been in sensual
situations with other couples, attending a regular party and simply watching
from the corner would be the best first step. Read together with your
partner this note, the web page and the Q & A. Talk together about the
answers we have tried to provide.
9 >You mention hard (or full swap) and soft swinging, we do not know
those terms. What do they mean ?
A. Sorry...., (full swap) swinging includes sexual intercourse,
soft swinging is everything but sexual intercourse. We are not advertising
that our massage weekend will include either type of activity. We do,
however, provide a group room. A mis-conception however is that when a couple
says they are interested in "full swap", it is pre-set that is what they will
do. Swinging is no different than dating. One can be open, but usually you
need to like the other person, first. If you are not attracted to another
person, we have found it's better to simply enjoy the conversation.
10. >You mention that the couples pair up to go and massage. Can the
paired couples choose each other or do you do that. If you make that
decision, on what basis.
A. Couples will choose different couples for massage. Part of
the event will involve people choosing other people for massage. Sometimes
couples choose, sometimes couples are randomly paired, however people will
usually end up being paired to a number of different people throughout
the event.
11.> When people pair for massage, will we be separated from our partner?
A. Pairing for massage usually occurs in one large room together.
Couples stay together and pair with other couples. One of the purposes of the
event is to learn sensual touching with your "significant other."
12> What is the chances that the other couples will also be attractive
and not ugly / fat and using this as the only method of swinging?
(here is a variation on the same question) What are the chances
that other couples will only be interested in a "Barbie and Ken", and since
we are not them, will we be comfortable?
A. Life is a gamble, there are no guarantees that you will find
another couple attractive, or that they will find you attractive. Beauty
for one is not beauty for another. In the 20 or so years we have been doing
this there have been many surprises. We started by choosing couples who
matched us by weight, height, age, & only seeing a photo first. The biggest
surprise has been what couples have been the most enjoyable. They have not
particularly been the most "beautiful." We now match more by education.
In the parties we have attended, there have been couples of every description.
At our events, there also has been couples of every description and body type.
I know it sounds trite, but it has been friendships rather that looks, that
has been most enjoyable to us. If "looks" is the only aspect of choosing a
couple you would like to meet ...., it may be best to attend a large party
(100-200 couples) where you would have a very large selection. However,
there is no guarantee that the couple you find as attractive will find
you attractive. A small group will by its very nature put more emphasis
on interactions than looks. We however, send descriptive paragraphs of
interested couples which will give some idea of how others look. The
reason we have sponsored long weekends is because after the first
evening people have the time to look beyond superficial issues to more
about the issues inside us. Therefore, outside looks or other things
become less important.
13> Do you think that bisexual couples will be welcomed? Do you welcome
single females? Can single men attend?
A. All, couples, above age 25, (female plus male) will be welcomed.
Bisexual males are not common at our events, bisexual females are. If you
are a bisexual male looking for a partner, our events would not be the
place to look. Our massage will pair male-female couples, so it will
assume heterosexual couples. The massage will also focus on sensual
experiences for female-male couples which frequently includes female
bi-sensual adventures. Our experience has been that ladies fairly easily
touch and caress other ladies. We usually pair three couple to a table.
Opposite sex massage the middle body, same sex massage the feet or head.
Occasionally, some men are uncomfortable massaging other men, even if it
is the feet or head. We have never experience women having such discomfort.
In such cases, men may simply watch while a man is massaged.
We do welcome single females.
As a single female, here are some things to keep in mind:
We will make every effort to welcome you, but you need to be aware that you
are entering an event attended by mostly couples. That being said, our
experience is that single women have as much fun as couples at the massage
weekends. Single women are warmly welcomed by the couples (both men and women)
and enjoy the event's activities. Visit our newsletter web link to read
their comments.
Single men are not permitted.
14. >We both have always had the desire to be part of one large group
sexual adventure, all touching, all having sex, not knowing till you looked,
who you were joined with. Is this possible on this weekend ? We have
also had the desire to have sex, with my wife having two or more men and
I with two or more women. Is this possible?
A. We welcome couples who are interested in sensual and erotic
massage. We welcome couples who want more spice and excitement in their
sexual lives. We do not promise any sexual or erotic adventures with
others. We do plan sensual massage and wonderful conversation. Again
what happens at the weekend depends on the chemistry of the group. As
hosts we will try to set a comfortable, safe, structured atmosphere
and accommodations. We provide accommodations for open massage and
group enjoyment.
15. >what are your thoughts on STD and AIDS ?
A. The "watershed" event which changed the AIDS-heterosexual
discussion was in mid-1996 when the Center for Disease Control (CDC)
recommended that HIV funding for heterosexuals (non-I V drug users) be
dropped "because there was no evidence of HIV expanding in this population."
The Walls Street J. of May 1, 1996 documented this event in detail. We
can send you a re-print of this if you like. There are volumes written
about this subject which we will not repeat here. For a brief review of
the AIDS/HIV- discussion check
Liberated Christians web page
. By the way,
Liberated Christians
is an excellent informative source. The data reports
that needle exchange and anal sex are the chief activities to avoid.
Added protection comes from condoms. (we use condoms). Condoms probably
do more to protect from Sexually Transmitted Diseases then from AIDS.
Avoiding populations likely to be IV drug users (such as prostitutes,
drifters, unemployed, "pick-ups" at bars) is a final protection.
Frankly, at events we welcome admission fees (within reason) and travel
requirements because it acts as a screen against IV users. Their cash and
time must be invested in drugs. It also acts to attracted employed people.
However, the risk for other STD are moderate to high, read below.
16.> We are definitely interested, but it would also be nice to know
who is planning on going, to look for compatibility. How do we indicate
our interest in attending?
A. Couples who are interested, and would like to indicate
their interest in attending, should send us a brief paragraph of introduction.
This is also how couples are added to our mailing list. See complete details about
how to be added to our mail list and how to attend at
Event Dates &
How To Attend
These introductions will be forwarded to all couples expressing interest in
the weekend. This e-mail will be updated periodically as more couples
indicate their interest in attending. The paragraphs should describe what
you want others to know about you. The following paragraph describes us,
the event's sponsors and provides an example of what could be included in
your description:
"We are P & E, a married couple in our 50's. We are both health
professionals and teach at a university. We have enjoyed erotic massage with other couples
since @ 1990. We have enjoyed anonymous play at parties, but have
particularly enjoyed couples where the friendship has continued
over many years. We enjoy simulating conversation, nude
recreation, travel, massage, swimming, hiking and dinning out.
Our favorite recent books have been "The Chalice & The Blade"
by Eisler and "The Care Of The Soul" by Moore. We are non-smokers.
We love all types of music."
A list of bios from couples who have attended one of our events can be
found at Typical
bios of Attenders
17.> We were interested in knowing what sort of age group could be
expected during this weekend...........
A. This is the most common question we receive. Interestingly,
it is asked by all age groups... Other parties we have attended range from
the late 20's to early 60's, with a majority in the 40's & 50's range.
This may be a "chicken or egg" phenomena.., that is, the age group that
signs up will begin to attracted a similar age group.
18> What are the age groups of the other couples you expect?
A. Couples who have attended our weekends are usually in
their late 30's to mid-60's. Our weekends attract couples who tend to
be professionals with grown children and therefore older.
19> Hi I am 18 and boyfriend is 31. We live together and have
never experienced the life style but want to badly. Can we go to this
weekend as an opening gate for us?
A. Thanks so much for writing, and we do appreciate your
interest in the weekend. It is difficult to create compatible age
guidelines for such a weekend. However, we have nonetheless, decided
that our minimum age will be 25. We wish you and your boyfriend well.
20> Where is this place you it will be held, if possible tell us
what the nearest town is. It will give us an ideal about the distance,
we live in Canada. What do people wear?
A. We sponsor events in two locations. One location is 3 hrs.
north of Logan Airport in Boston. It is not too far from you. The other
location is eastern North Carolina.
We encourage people to dress-up for Saturday evening dinner. What people
wear varies and definitely leaves room for creativity. Some wear
nice "Victoria's Secret" type of clothing. The ladies mostly wear
lingerie of all types, but not always. Other find dresses with the
best cleavage lines or best view of the legs possible. Then, again,
some people appear to have their own personal taylors.
(from Emily) I've been known to sneak into a teen store,
(cover my face in a bag,) and find a short skirt and slinky blouse
that looks sexy on a mature woman. We have occasionally seen men's
costumes that are both funny and a bit erotic, such as just the bow
tie of a tuxedo!! Some of the men wear boxer shorts, some are silk.
Have fun! There really isn't a dress code. Some wear regular cloths,
nothing special... that's fine too.
21> Can you describe the sleeping accommodations at each place?
A. "The New England location is a large remodeled New
England Farm, located on 5 acres. The Farm is nestled in a beautiful
mountain valley surrounding by rolling hills. Only 40 miles from the
Appalachian Trail and the large pikes of the White Mountains,
these foot hills offer both beauty and day hiking. The Farm,
originally built in 1840, has 13 room and 7 bedrooms. The Farm also
has a outdoor hot tub and indoor sauna. There are also standard
motels in the area and a full hotel located at a close-by nationally
known ski resort.
The North Carolina location is in the eastern part of the state
at our home on a large river. We have a heated swim spa and
hot tub. The River House has 6 bedrooms. There are also
many motels within 2 miles of the River house.
22.> Is there a fee? Does the fee include lodging at the location
for the weekend or is lodging extra? Other than the cost of food, what
other costs will be incurred?
A. No fee is charged for the weekend party and social events.
We do charge a small fee for sensual touching and wellness instruction (@$50).
For people needing accommodations, we will arrange housing for all
couples/single women. Each couple will have their own room either
at the River House, Maine Farm or in a nearby hotel. Lodging at the
Farm & Riverhouse is @$180 per couple per weekend. There are also motels
close by both locations. At both events couples will be assigned
food to bring.
23> We are a married couple in our early 40's. We've been married
for 22 years . I would like to talk my wife into experimenting with
other couples. Do you think that a weekend like this would be good
for a first time experience. I am really interested in this lifestyle
and I would really like my wife to try it with me.
A> Thanks for your note. The purpose of the events is
not to introduce people to swinging. Our weekends are for the purpose
of improving your relationship with your significant other. We use
sensual and erotic massage. Part of the weekend involves sensual
and possible erotic touch with other couples. We do see the weekends
as a sort of "health and wellness" event for couples. The purpose
of the weekends is not to persuade a partner to enter the swinging
lifestyle. If your goal is to persuade a reluctant partner to have
sex with others, we suggest to seek out other events. You may want
to read the Liberated Christians web page
(www.libchrist.com) which has a more complete answer to your question.
Our comments are based on the assumption you have talked to her about
your fantasy (shown her the web page with the Q & A) and she has
responded with something like "you have to be out of your mind!" If
you haven't told her..., well that's the first thing. Also, like fine wine,
a fantasy sometimes takes weeks and months to "mature." First, we would
discourage thinking in terms of "talking her into it." Second, begin
to expand your sensual pleasure within your relationship. Think what
you have learned about her that stimulates her sexually..., and do
more of those things. Is this weekend the place to begin? No,
especially if she is negative about the idea. If your partner is turned
off by the idea, it may be better to start with a nude beach, a
couples only resort, an erotic dance (with a promise that you will
only look), erotic (be sure they are high quality,) movies,
or reading erotic stories to each other.
24.> We understand that you require each couple to agree to a
confidentiality agreement. We will have to decline as this is now
starting to get way too complicated.
A.> Ten years ago I would of responded the same way,
"this is much too complicated..., and it almost takes the fun out
of it." Unfortunately, there are enough instances of individual's
and group's confidentiality being compromised that a
confidentiality agreement seems needed. We have adopted the
identical language of two other large groups. We find that this
agreement facilitated openness. We email this statement to all
couples planning on attending. All couples attending the massage
events must sign our confidentiality statement using their
real names as they appear on their drivers license. The
confidentiality statement protects both the sponsors
and all couples that attend. We also require couples to agree to the
confidentiality statement to be members of our mailing list.
The confidentiality statement is also located on the web at
Confidentiality
Statement
25.> What if someone in the group really turns you off? Is there a
proper etiquette to let them know without ruining the mood for anyone?
Will we be pressured into doing something with other couples, we
want a "no pressure atmosphere."
A. A great question and a challenging question regardless
if the event is a party, workplace or church social event. We don't
believe there is one answer. A "no thank you" or "I don't feel comfortable
doing that just now" are frequent answers. If someone is touching you
or touching you some place where you are uncomfortable, you can simple
take the hand, squeeze them affectionately and say "thank you, but not
now." The real plus of a massage event is where there can be touching
in a group without really knowing "who's hands are who's." Many of our
attenders state that during massage there is an altered state where you
are disconnected to who is doing the pleasuring.
You asked if this is a "no pressure" atmosphere? As the organizers
of these events we would want to reply.. "absolutely, we only
sponsor NO PRESSURE events." However, we have learned that we
cannot make this promise because we cannot control the actions of
our guests. We can set the atmosphere of no pressure, we can write
these long Q & A hoping that this teaches respect, we can model
no pressure, however we cannot guarantee that a couple will not
feel pressure from another couple to participate in play. Our
groups are relatively small. The smaller the groups the more
likely couples will be approached. What one couple believes is
simply flirtation another perceives as pressure. After all,
this is a group of people who have expressed some interest to
be sensual with other couples. It is most logical then that
others will flirt, touch or make overtures towards intimacy.
If you want to be in an event where you sit back, watch others
play and only proceed towards an encounter with another couple
at your initiative..., it is likely you will feel that others are
pressuring you at the massage weekends. However, if you want some
sensual pleasure with other couples and are able to say "no thank
you" or "we don't feel comfortable doing that just now," you will
very likely perceive the massage weekends as a "no pressure
atmosphere." BECAUSE, we have never (knock on wood) seen others
keep touching or flirting when these words are spoken. If they
would continue, we would be prepared to remove them from the weekend.
You asked, "what if we do not like this, what do we do, how do we not
offend people?" If it turns out that after a short time you are
clear that the sensuality is not for you, you can spend the rest
of the weekend simply enjoying conversation. If you are totally
uncomfortable.., you of course can leave. However, this does leave
unsettled feelings. If you (YOU=BOTH OF YOU) read through all of
these Q & A and are still VERY uncomfortable (remember everyone feels
some discomfort), it would be best for you to attend an adult resort
like Paradise Lakes in Tampa, or something like that first. These
locations are very adult and erotic vacation locations. Nothing
happening in public. However, you would be a step closer .., and
therefore would better judge your comfort level.
We usually encourage (but do not require) "first time couples" to seek
out other experiences prior to attending the massage weekends.
The massage weekends tend to be more intense erotic experiences due to
the small number of couples and due to the events lasting a full weekend.
26.> Does everyone exchange pictures and email addresses before the
weekend so you can get a feel for the other attendees ahead of time?
A. No. Bios are exchanged but e-mails or pictures are not.
Here is the reason. We are very concerned about confidentiality and are
very concerned about couples giving permission for the exchange of
personal information. For that reason, we hold the e-mail addresses
confidential until after an event. We then provide an after event mailing
where all e-mails are sent to everyone (of course as long as you want
your e-mail address available to the group). We are happy to exchange
pictures of us to guests but for the same reason pictures are not
exchanged before an event. No recording devise (cameras, picture
cell phones etc.) are allowed at our events.
27.> It seems many of the women are bi. I admire a good-looking woman
(wishing I looked like her), but my attraction is only to men. Is that
going to be a problem?
A. No. Many of the women who attend events (including
our weekend) enjoy sensual play with women as well as men. In fact,
let's state this another way. Many of the men attending events also
enjoy watching their partners enjoying sensual play with other women.
However, many of the women do not. It is very common to see some women
in the group room enjoying each other, it is even much more common to
see men-women partners enjoying each other. If someone of the same sex
is touching you and you are uncomfortable, use some of the suggestions
in #25. However, to be honest we have never seen the need at our events
for this to happen. People almost always treat others with much caring.
There are many very complex ways people express attraction towards
others and it is these ways which invites other's affection.
28.> What about other diseases besides HIV? I have heard there is
great risk from Genital Herpes.
A. Others have correctly challenged the claim of high
AIDS risk from unprotected heterosexual sex. However, they have
probably erred by implying that sexual play with multiple partners is
risk free. Intimate contact with others frequently spread germs.
There are disease risks with close contact. There are also strategies
to reduce the risks. The highest disease risks (all of which we have
seen at our couples massage events) are the following: Colds, flu &
bronchial infections, Urinary Track Infections (UTI), Yeast Infections,
Genital Herpes. Statistics indicate that one out of every 5 people
test positive for genital herpes.
There are strategies to prevent infections and reduce risks. These
strategies still allow couples to enjoy sensual pleasure with others.
We have listed three categories of strategies and we have named
them "minimal, moderate & highest." Each strategy provides a different
level of protection. The "highest" strategy provides the most protection.
Strategies can be mixed or matched depending on comfort levels.
Visit our web page for more information on these strategies
Disease
Prevention
If you are attending a massage weekend and you plan to use condoms,
please bring your own condoms. We usually have condoms available,
but DO NOT DEPEND ON US TO HAVE CONDOMS AVAILABLE WHERE AND WHEN
YOU NEED THEM. You need to plan ahead with supplies. You need to
inform your "playmates" you require condoms. You need to not depend
on anyone else to offer condoms or "model" the use of condoms,
including US as leaders.
29.> What are some tips you have for first time couples?
A. We have added a new page to our web site called
"First time couple? First time tips for success."
"First
Time Tips"
30.> What are our favorite massage and lifestyle web sites?
A. We have added a new page to our web site called
"Links to erotic and massage sites."
Massage Links
31.> My husband and I have had an active and enjoyable sex life for 20
years. About two years ago I began to loose interest in sex. It is now at
a point that I nearly have no sex drive and would just as well go without it.
The major problem is my husband. I love him and want to make him happy.
We have talked about swinging. Would attending the massage weekends help
with my sex drive or could it be a healthy outlet for my husband?
A. The purpose of our events in not to introduce couples
to swinging. Rather, our events are intended to improve the quality of
sexual enjoyment for couples. Nonetheless, over the years we have met
a number of couples that attended the massage weekends that have
had similar questions. We would not recommend the weekends as a
solution to low sex drive (or low libido). We definitely would not
recommend the weekends as a solution for meeting the sexual needs of
only one partner. We have seen couples use the events in this way and
it usually results in conflict with other couples. That being said,
we have also seen couples that have followed some or all of our
5 recommendations plus other activities and have found increased
libido. Low
Sexual Drive
32> What is the rules or "etiquette" in the group room at your weekends?
A. The only "universal" event rules are the NO rules and
the CLOSE DOOR RULES. At our events, when you enter the group room it
is a statement that you are open to a group experience. Again, you can
always say no and as we have discussed you can always take someone's
hand (or mouth or head) and remove it. You also can stay in the corner
with your partner and when someone approaches say "were only watching
right now." It is very hard to define fixed rules in a group room.
This is why we spend so much time talking about saying NO. We basically
support the "understanding" that when you enter a group room you are
saying you are open to a group experience. We would also say that similar
"understanding" occurs when you are playing in other public areas like
the hot tub or swim spa. If you want a restricted experience with only
one couple (or a few couples), you should move to a private room,
like your own bedroom, and close the door. In theory, we would agree
that there should be a "permission to join." However, in reality
from our experience this is too hard to define and even harder to police.
So therefore, it makes more sense that when entering a group room,
it is a statement that you are open to, a group experience.
This being said, EVERYONE at ALL TIMES should be sensitive to others,
regardless of your location. We should always be sensitive to any
indication that our actions are making another uncomfortable.
We should ALWAYS stop doing something if another communicates their
discomfort, even if they do not officially say "NO."